We have yet to see a single OWS accomplishment other than a rolling crime wave, filth, rambling nonsense, and the disgust of most everyone who is unfortunate enough to encounter them. They have not helped the community in any way. They do not get along well with anyone outside their movement, much less each other. They are destroying every place they are encamped. They do nothing positive for anyone.
First, people who are raped are “survivors” rather than “victims.” It’s a psychological thing. Things happen TO a victim, survivors take action themselves.
Second, the biggest problem, from the survivor’s point of view, about rape is the loss of control. If people who are trying to help take independent action and force the survivor to do anything, they are continuing the problem of their loss of control. The important thing is to put the survivor back in control of his or her life. It makes it easier for them to deal with what has happened and recover.
Take some training on the subject. Many of the women you know have been sexually assaulted. Knowing some basic techniques of how to deal with it will make you much more useful to them, and they will appreciate it. Think of it as your half of the bargain. You learn how to be supportive, they learn how to minimize their risks and how to stand up for themselves.
What is the standard rape assistance training for subsequent women raped by someone who has raped before but no one bothered to call the police because “If people who are trying to help take independent action and force the survivor to do anything, they are continuing the problem of their loss of control.”
“If people who are trying to help take independent action and force the survivor to do anything, they are continuing the problem of their loss of control. ”
So, this is your rationale for allowing rapists to go unprosecuted, so that they can rape again?
I had no idea that failure to call law enforcement when an assault occurs is “standard rape assistance training”. How about “assisting” other people in not becoming “survivors” by getting rapists off the streets? As a woman, I think I’d find that pretty “supportive”. Criminals belong in jail. You should take some training on the subject.
And way to structure incentives you dufus. Make sure every potential rapist in a 100 mile radius know he gets a free pass in your camp. Unreal. Ordinarily I’d say these overgrown adolescents deserve each other, -and all their attendant headlice, B.O., bad pot, crap food, and terminal stupidity- but no woman deserves THAT.
“If people who are trying to help take independent action and force the survivor to do anything, they are continuing the problem of their loss of control. ”
I challenge the validity of that when it’s acquaintance rape. And I’ll definitely challenge it here. When it’s a predator stalking a population, not reporting a known rapist is being an accomplice after the fact. And you know it. Sandusky could only dream of having a friend like you covering for him.
I give “rape assistance training” as well. But rather than assisting the rapist, I assist the victim in learning how to defend themselves; With massive levels of violence with whatever tools they have at hand.
Not ONE of my students has ever been successfully raped. They’ve killed 3 of their attackers and permanently sterilized 3, ran a couple off and put a couple more in prison for long terms once they got out of the hospital.
To the best of my knowledge, not ONE of the rapists has ever raped again (and in most cases were simply not capable of raping again).
I prefer my type of “rape assistance training”, thank you.
Perfect accompaniment to our Glorious Leader From His
Behind Obama-ayers and his good buddy and total schlub Pelosi, both of whom together with the Democrat Party of Death support this pack of misfits.
One reason I will never be good in politics is that I have no patience for manipulation of the language.
If you prevent the attack or at least take revenge, then, the “score is settled” as the cliche goes.
If the attacker is still not accountable for his acts, then you remain a victim. He got away with it, and you didn’t. Sure, you can choose to let it go, and move on, and CALL yourself a survivor… and yes, you survived. But you remain a victim too.
OK I get the premise of not making the survivor of the rape feel any less out of control, but you don’t call the police just for the survivor’s sake. You call the police for the better of society as a whole, so that other women do not suffer the same horrendous event.
Yes, women need to feel in control, and modern society is prone to denying women strength and a voice. These problems are systemic, and the “let the survivor decide all the things” is a bandaid solution. Come on people.
Penn State.
We have yet to see a single OWS accomplishment other than a rolling crime wave, filth, rambling nonsense, and the disgust of most everyone who is unfortunate enough to encounter them. They have not helped the community in any way. They do not get along well with anyone outside their movement, much less each other. They are destroying every place they are encamped. They do nothing positive for anyone.
Somebody is about to find out how many sex offenders can raise bus fare to Portland.
This is standard rape assistance training.
First, people who are raped are “survivors” rather than “victims.” It’s a psychological thing. Things happen TO a victim, survivors take action themselves.
Second, the biggest problem, from the survivor’s point of view, about rape is the loss of control. If people who are trying to help take independent action and force the survivor to do anything, they are continuing the problem of their loss of control. The important thing is to put the survivor back in control of his or her life. It makes it easier for them to deal with what has happened and recover.
Take some training on the subject. Many of the women you know have been sexually assaulted. Knowing some basic techniques of how to deal with it will make you much more useful to them, and they will appreciate it. Think of it as your half of the bargain. You learn how to be supportive, they learn how to minimize their risks and how to stand up for themselves.
Occutards is too mild a term for these people.
“This is standard rape assistance training.”
What is the standard rape assistance training for subsequent women raped by someone who has raped before but no one bothered to call the police because “If people who are trying to help take independent action and force the survivor to do anything, they are continuing the problem of their loss of control.”
Just too bad for them?
When I was at the zoo last week I saw a shitfight at the monkey house, it was better organized that these gong shows.
“If people who are trying to help take independent action and force the survivor to do anything, they are continuing the problem of their loss of control. ”
So, this is your rationale for allowing rapists to go unprosecuted, so that they can rape again?
I had no idea that failure to call law enforcement when an assault occurs is “standard rape assistance training”. How about “assisting” other people in not becoming “survivors” by getting rapists off the streets? As a woman, I think I’d find that pretty “supportive”. Criminals belong in jail. You should take some training on the subject.
And way to structure incentives you dufus. Make sure every potential rapist in a 100 mile radius know he gets a free pass in your camp. Unreal. Ordinarily I’d say these overgrown adolescents deserve each other, -and all their attendant headlice, B.O., bad pot, crap food, and terminal stupidity- but no woman deserves THAT.
“Jenny? Things got a little out of hand. It’s just this war and that lying son of a bitch Johnson and…I would never hurt you. You know that. “
“If people who are trying to help take independent action and force the survivor to do anything, they are continuing the problem of their loss of control. ”
I challenge the validity of that when it’s acquaintance rape. And I’ll definitely challenge it here. When it’s a predator stalking a population, not reporting a known rapist is being an accomplice after the fact. And you know it. Sandusky could only dream of having a friend like you covering for him.
I really, really don’t want to live in your world.
I give “rape assistance training” as well. But rather than assisting the rapist, I assist the victim in learning how to defend themselves; With massive levels of violence with whatever tools they have at hand.
Not ONE of my students has ever been successfully raped. They’ve killed 3 of their attackers and permanently sterilized 3, ran a couple off and put a couple more in prison for long terms once they got out of the hospital.
To the best of my knowledge, not ONE of the rapists has ever raped again (and in most cases were simply not capable of raping again).
I prefer my type of “rape assistance training”, thank you.
Orion
It’s not a big deal. You should just lie back and enjoy it.
/sarcasm
Hey-hey, ho-ho, Occupy Portland’s got to go.
Perfect accompaniment to our Glorious Leader From His
Behind Obama-ayers and his good buddy and total schlub Pelosi, both of whom together with the Democrat Party of Death support this pack of misfits.
One reason I will never be good in politics is that I have no patience for manipulation of the language.
If you prevent the attack or at least take revenge, then, the “score is settled” as the cliche goes.
If the attacker is still not accountable for his acts, then you remain a victim. He got away with it, and you didn’t. Sure, you can choose to let it go, and move on, and CALL yourself a survivor… and yes, you survived. But you remain a victim too.
OK I get the premise of not making the survivor of the rape feel any less out of control, but you don’t call the police just for the survivor’s sake. You call the police for the better of society as a whole, so that other women do not suffer the same horrendous event.
Yes, women need to feel in control, and modern society is prone to denying women strength and a voice. These problems are systemic, and the “let the survivor decide all the things” is a bandaid solution. Come on people.